Beats by Dr Dre Studio headphones - any good?

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  1. tinx

    tinx New Member

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    I'm looking for some nice full size over ear headphones with good bass response and have been looking at the Monster Beats by Dr Dre Studio.

    After reading lots of reviews I'm now not sure if they are style over substance or a seriously good headphone. Help!!
     
  2. Shaun-HiFi

    Shaun-HiFi Administrator Staff Member

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    Beats by Dr Dre Headphones

    Thanks for joining the forum and welcome!

    We're not massive fans of the Beats by Dr Dre Studio headphones, although they do look good! :)

    The construction of the Beats Studio doesn't feel particularly high quality (especially the headband) considering their high end price tag and actually the design seems suspiciously similar to the dramatically cheaper Shure SRH-240. Also sound quality is a little disappointing with the Beats by Dre Dre when compared with the competition - lots of bass, but not much definition.

    The noise cancelling feature of the Dr Dre Studios is great in certain situations, but in many environments it will not help. It also means you have to keep topping up the headphones with batteries. For more information see our buyers guide for noise cancelling headphones. If you must go the noise cancelling direction and want big bass then the Audio-Technica ATH-ANC7b is well worth checking out.

    I'd recommend doing a bit more research on the Shure SRH-840, the Ultrasone HFI-780 and the Beyerdynamic DT770 if you're after a high quality closed back headphone. All have superior sound quality than the Monster Beats by Dr Dre, more robust construction and are made by brands with a professional pedigree in real recording studios.
     
  3. key711

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    some quality headphones I know of

    These are some great quality headphones that i know of with great costumer satisfaction with different price ranges.

    Best value full-size headphones
    Grado SR60i costs about $70

    Lightweight headphones
    Sennheiser PX 100-II: it ways just 2 ounces folds and outperforms many only costs about $70

    best value at the lowest cost
    Koss KSC75 about $20

    absolute best pro quality
    AKG K702 it is pricely but wow what quality these headphones cost about $425

    Hope this helps

    Does anyone know of any small portable headphones with great quality that they could recommend.
     
  4. Jon @ HiFi

    Jon @ HiFi Super Moderator

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    Hey key711, small, lightweight and super Quality: BeyerDynamic T50p - awesome! I must say that I'm with you on the PX100-II's, and would also throw in the AiAiAi Tracks for Retro cool chic, and also a big mention to the two Audio Technica's; the ATH-ES55 and ATH-ES7

    Hope that helps a bit. Cheers
     
  5. key711

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    Thanks Jon

    I checked those out and they are sweet headphones you really know what you are talking about. I'm a aspiring Beat Maker and the right tools are so important.
     
  6. Endlesscombos

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    Great Headphones!!!

    Man, I bought these the other day for €300 because I had to wait for the SENNHEISER HD 650s. But man these head phones are crystal clear, amazing bass reproduction. I produce deep kerri chandler type house and these do the job. Can't wait to get the S650s and compare. Dr. Dre knows...
     
  7. Shaun-HiFi

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    Beats by Dr Dre Studio v Sennheiser HD650

    That's a little bit odd to compare the Beats by Dr Dre Studio with the Sennheiser HD650 - they are designed for completely different applications (and neither for use in a studio!).

    The Beats by Dr Dre Studio is a noise cancelling, closed back fashion headphone. The Sennheiser is an open back Hi-Fi headphone. Both are really quite unsuitable for production work in a studio!
     
  8. Endlesscombos

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    Sound On Sound magazine have a great article on studio headphones
    Studio Headphones

    In it they say that the Sennheiser HD650s are brilliant for mixing because they are open back. It's at the bottom of the article. Sound On Sound know their stuff so I reckon they are studio quality headphones.

    As for the Dres: Not sure what the cancellation does but when they're on your head they really do block out external sounds. I've been producing house for 8 years and I always used a cheap pair of Phillps headphones. The Dres are so much more detailed. The bass is perfect, panning position is very detailed and overall great. They are my first expensive headphones though so when I get the HD650s I'll write back up my comparison...
     
  9. Shaun-HiFi

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    Beats by Dr Dre Studio v Sennheiser HD650

    Thanks for the link to a really excellent headphone roundup. Lots of impressions and opinions from different reviewers.

    I have a pair of HD650s, so know these headphones really well. They are really nice sounding Hi-Fi headphones, with a smooth, warm and relaxed sound that makes them great for long listening sessions.

    I'm not a recording engineer, but the feedback I've had from engineers who have compared the HD650 side by side at our offices with headphones like the Beyerdynamic DT990 or DT880 is that the HD650 is a little too relaxed for picking out all the detail in a mix. The HD650 adds a warm colour to the sound that is nice to listen to, but may not be as accurate as they could be for mixing.

    It's so subjective with headphones. Everyone's ears and tastes are very different.

    Please do post your comparisons between the HD650 and the Beats by Dr Dre Studio. I for one would be very interested to hear your point of view.
     
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  10. RobinHiFi

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    HD650 and Dre Beats are not studio headphones - During Mix you can use anything you want to monitor, open backs, closed backs mix it in your younger brothers Ford Escort plugged into his iPod socket. If you hope to produce an accurate mix which you genuinely understand, if you hope to produce a master that will be endlessly reproduced and will not make you cringe in a couple of months time you have to really put your thinking cap on and look at getting the most accurate response you can afford.

    Dre Studio are a nice looking chunky hip hop themed pair of noise cancellers and yes they do sound quite a bit better than a pair of cheap Phillips headphones, but accurate they are not. They are specifically built to flatter the bottom end and emphasise what is known as the smile curve - they are performing their own mix on your music, if you mix with these headphones you do not have a clue how this mix actually sounds. It could be thin and reedy or maybe you have overcooked the bass drum and on most peoples home stereo it will punch thinly and aggressively through the mix seemingly for no reason.

    A multi-purpose studio headphone should probably be closed back so if you are recording some of your own sound (shame on you if you are happy to just play with someone elses sample library - get a cheap mic and start hitting those house hold objects now!) you can monitor this properly. If you are to use them for mix too you need to achieve a nice flat accurate sound - If you are only mixing with them then this is your only concern.

    HD650 are much more accurate than the Dre headphones but not as accurate as other headphones available for less money (DT880) and are also not a piece of kit you will often find in a commercial studio. As boring as this sounds getting used to the equipment you will find everywhere, from London to Lisbon from Brighton to Beijing, gives you the advantage of familiarity when you do move on to bigger and better things.

    I'm glad Sound on Sound did this feature and put their excellent ears on some brilliant headphones but they are not living with the reality of having to mix with these on a daily basis and are probably also coming to terms with dissolving the long held misconception (born of the headphones of the 50's and 60's) that you cannot mix with headphones -

    If they are to be you main mix tool start saving and bag a set up like this -

    Beyerdynamic T1 and A1

    But at any price point it is the creation of an accurate and honest monitoring system you are looking for.
     
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  11. Endlesscombos

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    Thanks for all the advice.

    €800 is steep for a pair of headphones but if they are totally accurate then that's what has to be paid. I'll look into the Beyerdynamic T1 and A1 also Seinnheiser have a pair for around the same price.

    Pretty much set on the HD650s though so will update with a comparison when got.

    Should I post here or start a new tread?
     
  12. Shaun-HiFi

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    Beats by Dr Dre Studio v Sennheiser HD650

    Yep, the Beyerdynamic Tesla T1 and A1 amp are about as good as it gets for a monitoring setup. The T1 has to be my favourite headphone... ever!

    I've just gone ahead and setup a new forum for headphone reviews. Please post any impressions and comparisons in there.
     
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    Update...

    Hey all,

    I got the HD650s today, and yes, there is a huge difference compared with the Dr Dre Studio headphones. I'll write a proper assessment in a week or two on the other thread, but for now:

    The Dres are very unrealistic when wanting to know how your mix will translate on to main speakers. The bass is too heavy and they are missing real detail in a lot of frequencies.

    I couldn't believe the clarity of the HD650s. What you hear is pretty much what IS and that's only after a day listening.

    I'm intrigued now by the thought of even better headphones for €800 such as the Beyerdynamic T1s. Gotta save for them, but since it's mainly House music I produce, not much acoustic clarity to worry about:)

    All in all, I don't regret purchasing the Dres. I'll do my mixing on the HD650s and sit back and enjoy the mix on the Dres. Purposeful vs chic:)

    This is my year for headphone creditcardness:)

    Alain
     
  14. RobinHiFi

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    I'm glad to hear you like them so much - they have always been popular. Smooth, warm and detailed and super comfy too!:)
     
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    The big ones (studios?) are not too bad. All the others however are bad like their earbuds and the solos. Don't waste your money.
     
  16. Shaun-HiFi

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    Alternative to Beats by Dr Dre

    If you are considering the Monster Beats by Dr Dre Solo then take a look at the Fanny Wang On-Ear Headphones.

    We've had the Fanny Wangs in for demo and think they beat the beats in every way! Sound is way more balanced and the build quality is better than the Monsters.
     
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    I gave the high-end Beats a good shakedown at the Apple store, and while I didn't find them bassy in the sense of the new Philips L1, I did find them to have a huge emphasis in the lower mids extending to just above the bass range. I could not find an EQ setting on an iPod that would address that sound defect. However in the case of the Philips L1, bass reduction rendered a very bassy headphone into something fairly flat from 20 to 10k.

    I was not able to test the on-ear Beats since the sample at the store was defective and they hadn't fixed it after 3 days. I find it interesting that the Apple store is extremely high visibility and high traffic, that the on-ear Beats is allegedly very popular, that they have only one sample out and quite a few in stock, yet they leave the defective sample on display for days. What does that say about how Apple regards the Beats? Which in the case of the on-ear model, are far worse than the pro model.
     
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    beats

    The constant spamming of forums by beats sellers is prima facie evidence of a poor quality product.
     
  19. UndefinedMemory

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    I think they're most likely bots. Shitty way to promote a product, but it's likely not actually related to Monster or Dr Dre. The last one is actually selling louis vitton stuff. I expect it's someone's way to make money: use a script that searches google for various keywords, finds links that are on forums, and posts generated messages with relevant links embedded.
     
  20. dalethorn

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    My gripe

    My gripe about these is they're spamming for beats (scroll down past Louis Vuitton) instead of Sennheiser or Denon, which still points to beats. I'm more sympathetic to the Louis spammers since beats sells their product for only twice what its worth while Louis sells theirs for 4 times the actual value. I should know - I have 2 Louis bags a 2 wallets.
     
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