Need New Headphones for Gaming!

Discussion in 'Headphone & Earphone General Discussion' started by Hyperblue, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. Hyperblue

    Hyperblue New Member

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    Hello

    I've been recently searching for some new headphones for my PC but finding it difficult to come by a set which satisfies my needs, the primary use of which will be used for 60% gaming (all types of games) , 25% videos on YouTube and 15% for music (mainly alternative rock, dubstep and pop).

    Here is my current setup:

    Asrock Z77 extreme4 integrated sound card and the Turtle Beach PX21.

    I will be purchasing the Asus Xonar DGX sound card and will also be purchasing a new pair of headphones (£150 budget [I am from the UK so will be using Amazon UK to purchase these items]), I will also be purchasing a attachable mic.

    I have been doing some research and came across the Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 and the Audio-Technica ATH M50, these both seem like good headphones however are very limited to specific elements, I want a full immersive experience in games (such as in Skyrim and Battlefield 3), however I have heard the AD700 does not offer anything in terms of bass, however I also want to play competitively where the directional awareness is a huge factor, while I want to be immersed in the game.
    I also want a competitive advantage, unfortunately the M50 appears to lack severely soundstage which is a huge factor for me as I want to be able to locate the enemy on the map.
    So I want to compromise between the two, a good bass, but also good sound awareness (being able to hear where the enemies are coming from), while still maintaining the high sound quality from the mids, highs and lows which the AD700 offers and I need your help to find this.

    Questions:

    1) I have found some headphones called the Sennheiser HD 598, are they any good for my needs?
    2) Is the AD700's bass really that bad compared to the Turtle Beach's PX21 which I thought had amazing bass?
    3) Is the M50's soundstage really non-existant as people lead me to believe?
    4) What are my alternatives considering I have a budget of around £150 but I can go up or down?

    Thanks.
     
  2. dalethorn

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    The answer I see most fitting to your questions is in fact the M50, listed here:

    Audio Technica ATH-M50 Professional Closed Back Monitor Headphones in White

    If you expect soundstage to be a key factor in locating opponents on a grid, then it may in some cases, but will fail as often as not, for various complicated reasons. The M50 is one of the best in this regard in your price range, but for maximum accuracy there are a couple of items around £600 to £1000 that do this better.
     
  3. Hyperblue

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    So the soundstage wouldn't make a huge difference in gaming?
     
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    Soundstage is just a word, so it sounds very simple. But it's not. It involves continuous phase shifts in the source file data to represent location information, and unless you have a perfectly flat frequency response (very expensive), the headphone only approximates the soundstage through its own limitations. Soundstage, or what you perceive it to be, varies from file to file, whether music or game file, and you might expect that when headphone 'A' has a wider soundstage with file 'A' than headphone 'B' has with file 'A', then headphone 'A' will have a wider soundstage with every file than headphone 'B' does. But it isn't always that way, because where the headphones deviate from perfect response and where the main energy occurs in a particular track may coincide and sound louder or closer, or they may tend to cancel out when in opposite phase and sound farther away.

    It's the same wave phenomena that occurs everywhere, even in ocean waves. Very rarely does this happen in a bad way in the oceans, but occasionally several waves will have their peaks or main energy coincide and a huge wave will result and damage even large ocean vessels.

    I mention the M50 as a very good headphone, perhaps the best in or near its price range, because it was designed for professional monitoring.
     
  5. Hyperblue

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    I shall be purchasing the DT990's thanks a lot guys, not to choose an amplifier (if anyone can help I have a budget of £80, I can stretch this to £100 if need be).

    I have heard the O2 is a good amplifier, however, I cannot locate it anywhere for £100, any ideas?

    Also the fiio 10 comes up a lot, not sure about this.

    And finally people say I need an amplifier and a dac, what is the difference (if you can offer examples of products).

    Thanks!
     
  6. dalethorn

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    When you listen to digital music the DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) changes the digital file to analog music which the amplifier then boosts to where it can drive the headphone. If you're happy with your current DAC and/or headphone amp it's OK, otherwise this little box will do everything you need:
    Just Audio uHA-120Ds Portable Headphone Amplifier & & 24bit/96kHz DAC
     
  7. Hyperblue

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    Thanks, more suggestions are welcome.
     
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